One of my favourite things to do is day dream about what could have been with Group B.  The last time I did that I discovered that Alfa Romeo actually did create a group B car.  This time I wasn't so lucky, so I was left with my own thoughts on the matter.


Group A, not Group B!



The Car

Given the time period for Group B there was only one Volkswagen car to pick, the VW Golf, sure we could have gone nuts and picked the Passat but even Audi shortened their wheels base on the Audi, so the Golf seems to be the right size.

Bodywork

Whilst it didn't go into Group B VW actually had a strong presence in Group A rallying, so we can get some idea of where they might have gone with their Group B car, the Golf Rallye built in the late 80's would have had to be produced earlier however it fits the bill perfectly the wide arches read to house some serious rubber.



Transmission

This was a bit of a conundrum, sharing the same stable as Audi the immediate thought was to go for 4WD, however most of the other group B teams went mid engine, rear wheel drive.  Some of the aborted Group S cars were front engine RWD, so that adds another dimension.  VW came to our rescue though by producing the Syncro so they were clearly heading in a 4WD direction, indeed their homologation special Rallye was 4WD.

Engine

Another problematic area for our day dream is the power.  We have a few options, would they have started developing the 1.8T earlier?  Would they have pushed the G-Lader more, seeing just how much they could have got out of it?  Maybe a combination of these two, in the style of the Lancia Integrale.  Out of leftfield also comes the fact that Spiess were using VW engine blocks to power its Formula 3 engines, maybe further development of this, perhaps with a G-Lader strapped to it.  The Rallye had a 1.8 G60 in it, so the engine would have needed to be more powerful than that, indeed it would need to be more powerful than the Golf G60 Limited that followed the Rallye.  My money would be on an evolved F3 engine.

Engine position is another potential minefield, however if we assume they are going 4WD then I'd go for front mounted engine.

Conclusion

Would it have been competitive?  In the right hands of course it would have.  The scary thing is that people have built in their garages and sheds cars that are very similar at a high level to this idea.  Sure they don't have the skilled race prep, or acid dipped shells, or masses of weight removed, but 1.8 Turbo, 4WD, Golf Rallye, I'm sure I can find one if I search on the web... Oh look.. theres one.

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Posted on: March 2, 2009 04:03


Comments

March 4. 2009 02:59

I would imagine a VW group B car would just be the Audi Quattro running gear in the Golf shell but with a VW based engine. I'd imagine it to be supercharged rather than turbocharged. Would certainly have been interesting if it would have come to fruition. Probably wouldn't have hit the power figures of the Quattro, but the instant torque would have made an interesting battle.

Matt

stealthstylz United Kingdom

June 20. 2009 22:35

VW Golf overall a nice car, they have not been very reliable. Electrical problems and squeaks and rattles will likely surface. Repairs and maintenance are also on the pricey side. Parts can be hard to come by, and VW's often require special tools and software that only dealerships and mechanics specializing (and charging more) in VW's have.

Classic Cars United States

July 6. 2009 17:40

Would certainly have been interesting if it would have come to fruition. Probably wouldn't have hit the power figures of the Quattro, but the instant torque would have made an interesting battle.

club penguin United States

July 18. 2009 16:00

I loved this post, thanks for sharing the photo, it reminds me of my friend Martin who looks like the driver!

Joe United States

November 18. 2009 05:29

Interesting article. You make some good points. Thank you again.

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